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Finding the Right Fit Without Following the Script With David Goldman


David Goldman

David Goldman is the Founder of Ruby Peak Recruiting, a firm specializing in direct-hire recruiting for top level executive assistants nationwide. After moving to San Francisco from Colorado in 2001, he began his recruiting career and established Ruby Peak Recruiting in 2008. With over two decades of experience, David has been instrumental in connecting companies with exceptional talent, particularly in administrative and executive assistant roles. His dedication to building long-standing relationships and reducing friction points at every step of the process has made him a respected figure in the recruiting industry.

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Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

  • [2:07] Why David Goldman followed instinct instead of a rigid business plan when starting Ruby Peak Recruiting
  • [6:55] The unconventional interview scheduling process that builds early rapport between candidates and clients
  • [10:34 How over-controlling the recruiting process can hurt long-term hiring outcomes
  • [13:21] The power of curiosity in client and candidate conversations to uncover deeper insights
  • [17:55] Post-pandemic shifts in employee expectations and return-to-office attitudes
  • [22:03] Best practices for working effectively with a recruiter as a client or candidate
  • [32:44] What David is most proud of after 25 years in recruiting and building a unique brand

In this episode…


Starting and running a business doesn’t have to follow a rigid script, especially in industries built on human connection. Often, doing what simply makes sense can lead to better outcomes and better engagement from all sides. So what happens when you ditch the conventional playbook and trust your instincts instead?

According to David Goldman, a recruiter with over two decades of experience, having genuine curiosity, trusting his intuition, and being adaptable have been his biggest business advantages. 

David highlights how traditional recruiting methods, especially ones focused on control, convention, and rigid processes, can stifle connections, slow the rate of progress, and produce subpar outcomes. 

David also explains why being present, letting go of “the way it’s always been done,” and truly understanding each person’s unique working style has shaped his unconventional but highly successful approach.

In this episode of the Pillar6 Podcast, host Roman Polnar sits down with David Goldman, Founder of Ruby Peak Recruiting, to talk about building a business by breaking away from convention. David explains why trusting intuition can create stronger client relationships, how curiosity unlocks better hiring decisions, and why rigid interview processes often backfire. David also shares his take on post-pandemic hiring trends and how to work best with recruiters.

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Quotable Moments

  • “Starting a business doesn’t have to be as complex and mysterious as possible.”
  • “If a point comes up, it’s hard to teach people to be curious.”
  • “I always want to be moving forward, right? Spending time doing busy work for me is useless.”
  • “Employees in your company that are interviewing candidates for you, they’re not recruiters.”
  • “Business, whether it’s massive or small, is just a group of people in a room making decisions.”

Action Steps

  1. Trust your instincts when building your business: Relying on intuition can lead to more authentic, effective decisions than rigid planning alone.
  2. Invite direct interaction between clients and candidates: Early engagement fosters rapport and helps both sides assess compatibility before formal interviews begin.
  3. Stay curious during conversations: Asking follow-up questions uncovers valuable context and ensures a better understanding of needs and motivations.
  4. Adapt processes based on what works: Customizing your approach per situation creates better outcomes than mindlessly following standard procedures.
  5. Let hiring managers lead initial interviews: Top-down interviewing saves time and gives decision-makers early insight into a candidate’s fit.

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This episode is brought to you by Pillar6. Pillar6 is a wealth advisory firm for successful individuals and families with active lifestyles.

Our clients appreciate having clarity and control over their finances and the peace of mind in knowing that their financial decisions are aligned with their core values, goals, and priorities. We provide financial planning services and wealth management services.

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